i, too, am a young poet, a futurist, they say, i want to come to your concert, like to sergei zhadan, approximately, and mayakovsky unexpectedly appeared on the threshold from the back door and said, who is the futurist here, and glovanivsky was surprised, so the gift of speech was completely lost, he was still standing, squealing, but maikovsky sensed him, so to speak, and he extended his hand to him and through the whole crowd, so he pulled away and golovanivsky was listening to mayakovsky, then he learned what ... futurism is, what poems volodymyr mayakovsky writes, but golovnitsky did not become a russian futurist in russian-speaking , mostly russian-speaking odessa, after such an acquaintance with volodymyr mayakovsky, who undoubtedly influenced the minds of young people, especially poetic youth, and golovanivskyi chose to become a ukrainian poet, that is, ukrainian culture could win and did win, even in such and such ... separate stories ,

cases, golovnytsky wrote a whole poem about this meeting, a very good, futuristic such poem, written quite late, a meeting with maikovsky, yes, he became a ukrainian futurist and went to mykhailo semenko in kharkiv, because he left the odesa film factory on yanovsk, he went to kharkiv, became a futurist, wrote futuristic poems, and then in his old age he corrected them and killed this spirit of futurism, and even in various critical articles there he wrote about... with i was playing with futurism when i was young, the mistakes of my youth. i know him already at this stage, when he was already criticizing, but i also know and i also remember this speech is grand and simple, you hear, the trumpets have sounded, it is the time of reckoning and the other thing was indisputable. we only have one minute left, and i have a question such that there are two myths of two cities. russian

myths, bulgakov's myth of the city, which has taken root in kyiv, and now we are just trying to somehow overcome it with a ukrainian myth, which is actually organic and true, and there is a myth of russian odesa, and this is a myth that ilfi petrov and not only they, how do you think, is there a chance that actually at that historical point... and in the catastrophe that we are going through, people will still manage, at least, well, if not, not to change their outlook , then at least show that most people, yes, that there is another ukrainian myth of these cities, and odessa, and kyiv, that for this you need to know first of all, i.e., i know, i tell, i do as much as i can, i gave geoshkoropia to a female battalion girl back in the 18th year. i wrote

that bolgakov and his city are the ones who are nabbed, there is ukrainian kyiv, in geush korupiya, read, there is also ukrainian odessa, there is a master of the ship, there is over the black sea, without hearing alevytskyi, soon a classic will also be released in the vivat series, there is dawn over the sea by yury smolich, later roman, but odessa is also very interesting in it, and there are a lot of stories from 20s, we can retell some anecdotes about the golden calf or 12 chairs, but eh...

and the workers asked why you, not as a claim, but with curiosity, and why you speak ukrainian , what is the point hanson, a german himself, ah, answered: "well, you understand me, well, they said, yes, what should i speak in russian, a good, good story, and in fact, it's a story about what for , in order to love, you need to know, and here are all these names and all the texts about which..." we said, they are worth knowing in order to love and to love the ukrainian version of their city, in particular. thank you, yaryna tsymbal, literary critic, researcher of the literature of the 20s, was my guest, i'm myroslav barchuk, these are my names, thank you for being with you, see you in a week, thank you.

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journalist of the ukrainian tv channel espresso and editor-in-chief of the eu sister portal. circle i am pawel kovel, head of the committee on foreign affairs of the polish diet and the government council for cooperation with ukraine. good day. thank you very much for this introduction,

for the first time in our program, i am in this new role. good day. as always, we will sum up the information week and talk about the main events for ukraine, poland and europe. from the fact that this week the senate of the united states of america voted for a package of military and financial aid to ukraine in the amount of almost 61 billion dollars. we understand how important this support is now for of the ukrainian army, for ukraine. but what is the strategic importance of this aid package? i would say that this is primarily a tactical value. i will explain it now: if the weapons are delivered to ukraine on time, we have great hope that putin will not tactically pass, will not break the line. front and that no trouble will happen, the strategic significance is somewhat different, here it is important that this aid package gives all of us time to produce some more weapons and prepare for war in the second half of the year and next year, because that is how you have to think about it. i i wonder what the real deal is

with this ammunition. i think that last year someone didn't plan and plan and prepare on this side of the front line because the front line itself is super well prepared, very well. from the information technology side and in other ways, i saw it that way when i was on the front, i was impressed by it, but i asked myself, and i know a lot of people are asking themselves, how did it happen that there was a problem with ammunition in the first place, i hope , there will be no more of this, so the tactical meaning is in the fact that now we will probably be able to stop putin, i am talking about the entire event, he will not go further, this means that the ukrainians have a chance to hold the front line, which is of strategic importance. we will buy time to provide the ukrainians with anti-aircraft weapons, anti-aircraft defenses, possibly taurus, that is, carriers that will allow us to reach and hit targets inside russia, several hundred kilometers from the front line,

there has been a lot of talk in the media these days about how everything was happening from within the us, which was guided by speaker of the house of representatives mike johnson and other politicians, how the discussions took place, what was most important in making the decision. meetings in think tanks, one might say, it looked like a movie, that is, we just went from office to office by prior agreement, of course, and presented a number of arguments that

had been worked out earlier, i myself developed several simple, ordinary arguments that could reach someone in the united states, but of course the decision was also made at the highest level and i believe... that there were two, maybe three main elements that influenced this decision: first the element, in my opinion, was the tension among the european allies of the united states of america, because it suddenly turned out that the united states, which is used to being... the first in everything, the prime minister the biggest and so on, does not play such a significant role in helping ukraine , because military aid is still comparable to that provided by european allies, but humanitarian aid is much less, so suddenly it turned out that the united states is not doing well in this regard. the pressure began, the impetus for which was a tweet donald tusk, but of course it's not about the tweet. the thing is that he suddenly got the french, the germans, and then the nordic countries and suddenly... all the european partners, for example, the czechs also got very, very much on board, putting the usual pressure on

the us and saying to johnson, man, you can be chamberlain , you probably want to be churchill, but you will still be chamberlain. i mean, johnson could have been the one to let this modern-day hitler into europe in no time. another factor, it seems to me, there was a conscience, just a conscience, a kind of political conscience. my experience shows that everyone has it. but not all of these factors work in the same way, the decisive point is the point at which the decision is made, this pain threshold, let's say, and johnson decided that he did not want to take responsibility, it was definitely not enough space, the lobby inside the united states of america was also significant , very strong, also economical, because sometimes we had to use the following argument, because these weapons and these ammunition will generally be bought here in the united states, so if you don't vote for this, with this money you will... weaken defense industry production, for example in alabama. so that's another argument

that was there. i believe that an important argument was also the information about everywhere, which we said everywhere after my visit to the front line, which quickly spread. the message was that there was a risk of a front line breach and that it was a serious risk. this was intelligence information that reached us and it was talked about a lot in the united states, in washington, and it was managed to get to congress leaders. in the package of american aid to ukraine , atakms long-range missiles. do you think the us example will be a sufficient argument for german chancellor olaf scholz to finally provide ukraine with taurus long-range missiles. i keep saying: let's look at the dynamics of the situation. today it is impossible, but literally in two or three weeks you and i will meet in this program and i assume that it will already be possible. such is the nature of war that countries

are slow to make decisions, but i am sure that germany would also join, eventually. the bundestag suggested this week that this us aid package could be ukraine's last for the foreseeable future. from many of my polish friends, i now hear the opinion that this package is important, but it will not be a breakthrough, and things can only get worse in the future. what can we say to critics and pessimists? it may turn out that this packet was the last, every packet may turn out to be the last, or it may turn out to be the first of many, or it may be something else, i really don't know why people think that this the package is the last ones, that's just what they say, but what can i say to that, don't be pessimistic, just do your own thing, if they are politicians, publicists, opinion leaders, then let everyone do what they have to do, so i call for the right understanding this war, this war is a challenge... now ukrainian military

experts say that with a sufficient number of weapons, ukraine will be able to launch a counteroffensive to liberate its territories from the russian invaders already this summer. at the same time , western experts say that putin will want this one break through the front in the fall, and maybe even earlier. is especially eager to seize kharkiv, we really see that they have such appetites now, they are directly confirmed by the recent statements of russian minister lavrov, what does the development of events depend on? it depends on how prepared one is, it all depends on luck, but it also depends on how motivated the allies are. as for ukraine, ukraine must mobilize, it is starting now. no one can replace the ukrainian state in this, not here so many. without it, it will not be possible to move

forward. the second thing is demining. last year there was a serious lack of equipment. i'm talking about minesweepers for security in the black sea. the third issue - defense in the air - is a very important element. and the fourth - missiles that can hit targets related to military production on russian territory.

said, some things, as i already said, we will probably be able to do, but i would like to avoid one misunderstanding: the issue of mobilization is always an issue of a specific country, its sovereignty, etc., so other countries can help, but they cannot cross a certain border, beyond which everything that concerns the ukrainian state itself goes, this should be done primarily by ukrainian institutions, i would not like us to postpone the borders are so far that it seems as if other countries are responsible for... i agree with you, we talked about this before, but now ukraine has taken a key step and introduced restrictions. now the person is over 18 years old , ukrainian nationality, male will not be able to get a passport at the consulate. what symmetrical steps can poland take to help ukraine return men of military age

to protect european borders. perhaps these steps should be related. with the declaration of my defense status, participation in the defense of ukraine under various procedures, i don't really want to go into details, because i did not prepare for this in detail, we could return to this topic in the next broadcast, but i think i can here to say what these actions might be, but still i want it to sound clear, this is the business of the ukrainian state, we can help a little with this, even for various psychological reasons, we cannot cross a certain line. russia is attacking the energy infrastructure of ukraine, this year they are not waiting for autumn to come. the financial times writes about the prospects of green energy projects in ukraine. the point is that this is

a good solution for us, because solar and wind energy facilities, due to their spread and small forms... the main themes of our work, i see it in in conversations with my western colleagues, because in many countries, or in several large western countries, there are government representatives like me, my colleagues, they say that one of the main areas should definitely be the issue of... agriculture and energy efficiency in cities , a large part of those decisions will take place in the process of accession transitions, but also,

and i see it, i see it from different priorities and from conversations from different environments. that this will also very clearly apply to the reconstruction plan, it is now clear that the reconstruction plan does not it's about one-to-one reconstruction to restore everything to the way it was before the war, for example, one of the main issues will be the issue of energy, namely smart consumption, the use of green energy, of course in independence from russia, that's the number one priority, so we expect in ukraine and polish business. this is certainly a question of investors, but it is also a question of state investments, these large funds that will come to you after the war, which will definitely be part of international structures, financial structures, i can already see from the negotiations that energy issues play a big role there in the preparation of a recovery plan, but there will probably also be help from private investors who will be interested in investing in

such solutions, we can't always wait for the end of the war, some can be rebuilt right now, but in general, i am familiar with various expert decisions, proposals, and it is already clear that reconstruction after a great war should never be one-to-one, because, for example, the structure of the population is changing, a larger number of people live in completely different places, people move across war and do not want to return to the old places, so countries never rebuild as it was, this is a creative process and it is in... other sources of energy, for example, green, and so on. and we are already thinking about such decisions. we don't just think, we already analyze them, we already have concrete basic working out how everything

will look like. polish president andrzej duda invited polish prime minister donald tusk to a conversation on may 1 regarding the placement of nuclear weapons in poland. during his visit to warsaw, nato secretary jen stoldenberg did not confirmed that such a plan for poland now exists. however. there is a heated political debate inside the country, what is it about and do you think warsaw and kyiv need nuclear weapons in poland? it's not a quick thing, you know, we're having a heated internal political debate about it right now, simply because the president announced it very publicly without any consultation. of course, this idea has long been circulating among various security experts, it makes sense, but only under certain conditions, including when the united states will be determined to do. with this proposal, and now it turns out that he

is stuck with it because he did not get clear support from the west, that's all i would say, sometimes there are even good ideas, and now i don't judge whether this idea is good or bad, you need to think about what to report and to whom to report and not immediately run with these ideas to the press. parliament supported the one-year extension of the agreement on duty-free food trade with ukraine. it provides additional guarantees to protect european farmers. are you satisfied? polish farmers with this decision? and does this mean that there will be no more blockade? we managed to agree on some things, if we talk about the issue of agriculture, not everything, but... in this sense, we have also made more progress in understanding the compromise in europe, because there are certain interests of spain, portugal, france, italy, our many others countries and us, we should understand and look at everything together and

understand where there is room for compromise, so certain elements, certain restrictions, certain decisions related to processing and fertilizers, certain restrictions on the application of the principles of the green course in agriculture, of course this was also discussed, there is always bound to be someone who will say that... this is not enough, i can guarantee one thing, as it has been said many times, we we will always protect our producers, and ukraine will also protect its producers when it joins the eu, this is the alphabet of european politics, i assure you and everyone who watches us, no one in the eu will ever act differently, because it would be wrong, besides, he would immediately lose power. it should be noted that the european parliament is meeting this week for the last time in this regard. candidates, because you have to think

about it like this, you're smiling now, i'm smiling with joy, it's me being so kind, but no, it's because i'm really happy with this prospect, i'd say that in 10 years at the most these the elections will already be with the ukrainians, i believe in it, maybe even by... distribution of seats in various other bodies, for example, in the committee of regions, proportionally, as observers, such a decision makes sense, i think that observers from ukraine should appear in the european parliament in the near future, earlier this procedure was in poland, let's think about it creatively, if we try to summarize this term, what was important for ukraine and poland? especially from a security point of view. we all faced new threats when full-scale war broke out, what was the role of the european parliament? there are

several elements, of course, the role of president roberta metsol herself, who was very active and involved in the ukrainian cause. also, the european government of the current term has been generally excellent. i have often looked at the actions of ursola fonderlajen with admiration and affection, as well as the hopes of mrs. mezzola, the chairperson. it's such a vanguard, and it's good, you can say that it's not a problem, it's a solution, the european parliament is actually the vanguard of politics, paving the way for ukraine when it comes to military aid,

candidates who often come directly from governments and from public positions in warsaw, i think it helps a lot because when someone comes to brussels and is elected, everyone looks at what he did before, so that he was a strong candidate, a strong player, and his affairs had weight, from poland there is an ex-prime minister, several ministers, and it

looks positive, a lot now. and i promise even to myself in connection with this understanding to monitor the election campaign from the point of view of russia's influence through trolling, through bots, through social networks, so all these phenomena in social networks, attempts to discredit politicians who criticize russia, all this will soon be even more around, it is a must will come out, but it's good that the government is there... i would like at the end of our program to say a few words about russian influence in the context of what is happening in georgia now. we started the path to the european union together. saakashvili's georgian reforms were an example for ukraine. and a powerful example of the courage of the nation for the whole world. but what is happening

now... it is clear that putin is afraid that georgia will go towards a revolution, some serious political changes, and he is putting pressure on ivanishvili and the georgian authorities to move in this direction direction, pushed this position from different sides and more widely, if we talk about civil society, but you know, the harder someone pushes, the faster it

causes some kind of riot, because... and civil society, because their decisions are directed precisely against people, they they won't win, there will be no profit from this, i don't see any prospects here, it only accelerates the moment of rebellion, but the government, when... it is harsh, when it starts to press, it always forgets that with this it only accelerates the moment of change. georgia will be part of europe, georgia will be 100% part of europe, because we look at it and see a group of politicians, a narrow group of politicians from the georgian dream, because i emphasize, far from all of them are playing this political game now, they may be under pressure somewhere, they pressing,

the society is super-european, rooted in europe, i'm talking about georgia, let's not forget that, because it's easy to form an opinion based on the actions of a few politicians who get the support of voters for other reasons, not because they are anti-european. thanks for the conversation, maria gurska youtube, pava kovalma. on pavel koval's ukrainian channel on the espresso tv channel every sunday at 3:30 p.m. and 10 p.m., and the main part of our conversations can be read on eu sisters in both languages. there will be a short break in our broadcasts, but on may 19, wait for us on the air again. verdict from...