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c. i'll also play you on to the c. i'll also play you more of that shocking footage from sweden and tackle this problem at source and replace the rwanda policy permanently . the rwanda policy permanently. so do you trust sir keir starmer to stop the small boats.7 could he be any worse than rishi sunak.7 >> also tonight more opportunities for noah lynn van leuven women's darts is under threat. >> i speak to a legend of the game who is refusing to compete against that trans opponent. plus, it is fantastic to be here in nigeria with you all and to be here at the school for our first visit. >> hi . >> hi. >> hi. >> who gave harry and meghan the right to conduct a royal tour.7 well, listen, i've got all of tomorrow's newspapers from front pages for you with my panel. former bbc political correspondent john sergeant and political commentators alex armstrong and joana jarjue. oh, and find out why our country's eurovision entry for this year
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makes me ashamed to be british. get ready britain, here we go. greta thunberg should stick to saving the turtles . next. saving the turtles. next. >> very good evening to you from the newsroom. it's just after 9:00. the top story tonight. the ringleader of an armed robbery in which a police officer was fatally shot has been jailed for life. 38 year old sharon beshenivsky was killed when she interrupted the raid in bradford nearly 20 years ago. piran ditta khan, who's 75, fled to pakistan for three months after her death and spent 15 years on the run. three other men are already in prison for beshenivsky murder . prison for beshenivsky murder. well, retired detective chief superintendent andy brennan
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described ditta khan as a violent man. >> the reason why he's here at 75 years of age is on the basis that he decided to flee the country in order to try and make good his escape and avoid being held responsible and accountable for his part in what had taken place. and let's be absolutely clear, he is clearly the one person that was responsible for organising and planning this and making sure that those that went in there had firearms and loaded firearms. in that case, the prime minister insists that people will soon start feeling better off after figures show the uk is now officially out of recession. >> the office for national statistics estimates that gdp rose by 0.6% in the first three months of the year. predictions were suggesting 0.4. rishi sunak says the figures suggest the economy has real momentum, but shadow chancellor rachel reeves accuses the conservatives of being out of touch . being out of touch. >> if you look at this prime minister's record, since rishi sunak became prime minister, the
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economy is still £300 worse off per person in the country. so this these numbers today are not deserving of the victory lap that rishi sunak and jeremy hunt seem to want to go on. >> rachel reeves there, speaking earlier this afternoon. well, in other news, a psychotic ex—prisoner who attacked and killed a grandfather has been handed an indefinite hospital order at the old bailey today. thomas o'halloran was riding his mobility scooter in west london when lee byers stabbed him. the 87 year old suffered multiple stab wounds to his neck, his chest and his abdomen. police say the motiveless attack has left his family shocked and horrified. we've heard tonight that in northern ireland, a 37 year old man has been arrested in connection with what police have called a barbaric attack in the town of bushmills. it's after another man in his 20s was found nailed to a fence, leaving him with potentially life changing injuries. police say the suspect has been detained under the terrorism act, and that their investigations are
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ongoing . sir keir starmer says ongoing. sir keir starmer says that flights taking migrants to rwanda would stop on day one of a labour government . the party a labour government. the party has the party leader, rather has confirmed he'll scrap the scheme, calling it a gimmick. instead, he's pledging to tackle illegal migration with a new border security command, which he says will include m15 agents. dover mp natalie elphicke , who's dover mp natalie elphicke, who's just switched from the conservatives to labour, welcomes the approach, accusing rishi sunak of failing to keep our borders secure. but the prime minister claims many of sir keir starmer's proposals are already in place . already in place. >> the question for keir starmer, then, is if he cares so much about that, why did he vote against the new laws that we pass to give our law enforcement officers new powers? they've now used those to arrest almost a thousand people connected with illegal migration, sentenced them to hundreds of years in prison. and if it was up to him, all those people will be out on our streets. so i just think
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it's a rank hypocrisy of this position. >> israel's eurovision entry eden golan insists the song contest is safe for everyone after she faced questions following her place in tomorrow's final being secured last night. thousands of pro—palestinian protests marched outside the venue in sweden. they want israel to be banned from the contest because of the war in gaza. however, before her performance, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu criticised what he called an ugly wave of anti—semitism . and ugly wave of anti—semitism. and finally, before we head back to nana, a huge solar storm in space overnight means that some of us could be able to see the northern lights if conditions are right. forecasts suggest people in parts of northern ireland, scotland and even further south in england and wales could catch a glimpse of the natural wonder expert say it could be the most powerful geomagnetic storm in almost two decades. that's the latest from the newsroom . another update at the newsroom. another update at 10:00. until then, you can sign
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up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. common alerts . go to gb news. common alerts. >> well, i'm sorry, but i have to say that watching olly alexander with five half naked blokes simulating sex acts in a grotty, neon lit toilet, the songis grotty, neon lit toilet, the song is called dizzy. it grotty, neon lit toilet, the song is called dizzy . it should song is called dizzy. it should have been called grotty crotch grabbing lip clipping. ollie at one point caresses one of the dancers, hanging upside down. judge for yourself round, round till the moment it never ends. >> wake me . >> wake me. >> wake me. >> this is the united kingdom's entry for eurovision 2024. what the hell is going on? gone are the hell is going on? gone are the days where eurovision was about the actual song. when brotherhood of man save all your kisses. for me, that was a tune cliff richard and lulu performed. remember the late terry wogan and his legendary
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commentary? all of that's gone , commentary? all of that's gone, replaced by a virtue signalling political woke fest with people who hate this great country denigrating it, whilst at the same time supposedly representing it . now last year representing it. now last year we had may miller, who came second from last with 24 points. that's 24 more than germany. at least they came last. she was found to have tweeted i hate this country. and as the prime minister, boris johnson, during the pandemic, when he was critically ill with covid, she tweeted she didn't feel sorry for him. why say anything at all? ollie alexander this year called the union flag divisive. well of course it's divisive. each flag represents a different country, so by the very nature of it being a flag, that's its job. it divides one country from another using colour. i mean, it's no more divisive than the letters. what is it? lgbt plus q plus, plus whatever, which divides everybody by a letter. who's a gender? this performance appears to represent at least,
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though unlike greta thunberg, ollie didn't then conflate the contest with israel and refuse to perform . although, let's be to perform. although, let's be honest, the contest reaches a global audience of 162 million people, which is probably the real reason why they're all getting involved. and this week, at thursday's second eurovision semi—final in sweden's third largest city, malmo, israel, singer eden golan was one of the ten entries to progress. but earlier that day there was also a demonstration in the city centre, with thousands protesting against the decision to include israel whilst its military campaign continues in gaza to the sea. >> from the river to the sea. yeah . palestinian yeah. palestinian >> i mean, it's absurd. they're stamping on the israeli flag .
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stamping on the israeli flag. further protests and an alternative concert billed by organisers as a song contest without genocide. a planned for saturday. greta thunberg gave her two pennies worth. >> i think they should be everywhere. and once again, young people are leading the way , showing, showing the world how, how the, how, how we should react to this . react to this. >> and what's this got to do with climate change? i mean, is she bored? an activists were gathered outside the hotel where eden golan was staying. all she wants to do is sing her song. but this is what she had to deal with at a press conference yesterday . yesterday. >> you ever thought that by being here, you bring risk and danger for other participants and public. >> you don't have to answer that question if you want . don't want question if you want. don't want to. why not? if you want to, if you want to answer, okay. please, i think we're all here for one reason and one reason
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only. and, the ebu is taking all safety precautions , to make this safety precautions, to make this a safe and, and united place for everyone. and, so i think it's safe for everyone. and we wouldn't be here for any other reason . reason. >> i mean, the whole thing is so intimidatory, but because these people appear to believe they hold the moral high ground, it's fine to effectively besiege a young woman in her hotel room by gathering and chanting outside it. in 2022, we finally produced a decent song, sam ryder with spaceman. this time . his spaceman. this time. his face. but we didn't win because of the war in ukraine. before that, it was punishment for brexit, which is perhaps why we subconsciously put forward such atrocious songs. none of this though, has anything to do with music. eurovision has become politicised and a politicised
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nonsense fest, and it's no longer about the song. or am i missing something ? well, let's missing something? well, let's get the thoughts of my panel . get the thoughts of my panel. former bbc chief political correspondent john sergeant, commentator joanna joana jarjue and political commentator alex armstrong. you've got to walk faster than i thought . i had faster than i thought. i had done that walk before, right? i'm going to start with you, john son heung—min. lovely to talk to you, what do you think? is it why are we so obsessed with this or politics getting involved in what is just a song contest? >> no, it's inevitable. once you get an audience, as you say, of 162 million across the world, you can't then suddenly complain about, oh, they're talking about politics. of course they're talking about politics. this is a moment when countries get together. and if you've got a really difficult problem going on, as there is at the moment in the middle east, people are taking sides. people feel about it strongly. so you can't suddenly say, oh, we should stop all that. let's just go on about the music. it's just impossible. you're you're holding back
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whirlwind. >> but but it's about the music, alex. >> surely it's not all about the music. >> it's a song contest. >> it's a song contest. >> no, it's always been about politics. it's always been a question of which countries do you agree with? which scandinavian countries particularly you agree with? they almost all vote together on all sorts of things. so the idea of there was a golden time when they just listened to the music . they just listened to the music. >> they did. >> they did. >> they, you know, they've always listened, they've always listened to them about brotherhood. they've always listened to the music. and also known exactly who's singing from which country. >> there's definitely an element of politics and we can't take i mean, come on, that's the truth. we all know it is. we've got, as you said, not to punish for brexit, punish for the wars in iraq and all those things for years and years. but, you know, there are we also do put forward some abysmal acts, and we have put forward a really good act. sam was brilliant. sam ryder was fantastic. but, you know, what we're seeing is brats like greta who can who are just jumping on the next bandwagon to get her name up in the press to get herself on tv. brats like, brats like brita, brats. >> greta. >> greta. >> she's a brats. who? but you
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know, they she can't. she she can't stick to one topic, can she? she's always jumping around palestine. plus climate change, you know, like like us. >> why be her only brand? i know that obviously she's a leader, especially when it comes to the youth. when it comes to climate change. but this is also a human issue when it comes to palestine. so somebody could say to me, well, stick to marketing, you know what i mean? but i'm entitled as a human being to have an opinion and to go out and protest. >> joanna, this is not this is they are targeting an act. this poor young girl, she's 21 years old and they're chanting, booing her while she's singing . it's her while she's singing. it's a singing competition. first and foremost, they're booing her. that poor young girl on stage. >> oh, come on now. >> she's a very accomplished young woman. she happens to be not. this is at all relevant. rather good looking, right? she's beautiful. yeah she's very composed. she's only ruined , i composed. she's only ruined, i have to say, by netanyahu suddenly appearing to support her, which then, of course, polarise the issue to do you agree? not just with the existence of israel, which is what she's talking about,
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really? that's why she's there. you're talking about do you agree with the israeli policy towards gaza? and that, of course, is open to enormous argument . argument. >> but how is it acceptable, though, for this mass protest outside her hotel that she's staying and they're chanting all the nonsense they've been chanting throughout the whole i mean, how is that acceptable? >> i think it's because of what she represents. and i don't want to condone especially, you know, i'm i'm actually i was going to say i'm a similar age to her, but i'm really not. there's probably like a decade. i'm 30, i'm 30 and she's like 20. i'm like, yeah, we're the same. we're not 20, but i think it's about what she represents. obviously it's never going to be pleasant to see a huge crowd shouting things at a young girl who will probably be intimidating, intimidated. it's not going to be nice for her, but it's about what she represents and it's about the bigger, much more important cause of the fact that over 30,000 people have died in palestine , most of which are children. >> sounds to me like you're almost condoning the fact that this poor woman is literally being harassed outside her hotel because of what she represents. i'm not saying that it's a song
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she's just singing a song. >> i'm not saying that it's okay, and i can appreciate that. you know? she would be intimidated and it would have been horrible. but also in those people's minds, they're thinking 30,000 people dying, loads of women and children, over half women and children, over half women and children dying compared to protecting a young girl who knew exactly what was going to happen because the conversation about this has been going on for a while and actually, while we're on this topic, we have to also acknowledge about russia because obviously russia has been excluded before. >> well, well, well, that's really different . really different. >> and then it's not different though. >> it's different. >> it's different. >> it's different. >> it is different. if anything , >> it is different. if anything, about the israeli song is it was changed. >> so they they did change the lyrics. they changed the lyrics because they thought it was too obviously political. >> but but you know, look, let's just talk about the russia thing for a minute because it's really important. like russia was banned because it started a war. absolutely. and israel calling for israel to be banned for responding to terrorism is a really, really different thing. >> that is disingenuous, alex. thatis >> that is disingenuous, alex. that is disingenuous. that is disingenuous. if this was a week, if this was a week after october seventh, and we'd seen some response from israel and
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the whole world was saying, israel, let's exclude from eurovision, i would say, okay, you're completely right, but what's it been, 6 or 7 months or something like that? it's about the response. and like i've just said, over 30,000 people have died. they've literally just gone and, started an assault on the border of rafah, where they actually told the people. so it's escalated to such level. >> one second. okay so let's let's be truthful here. okay. so there was a horrendous event on october the 7th. it was horrendous. nobody condones that at all. israel have responded. but let's not forget that before october the 7th hamas were firing rockets continuously through israel. and let's not forget that israel would probably look like gaza if it wasn't for the iron dome. sure thatis wasn't for the iron dome. sure that is perfectly true, but the awful truth is , this is just awful truth is, this is just life, that israel has lost the propaganda war. >> what people are looking at now, maybe they shouldn't be looking at it, maybe it should be balanced and so on. what they're looking at is horrendous stories night after night of families being killed. that child, that child that little
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object. there was a child. that's another one. that's another one. that's another one. family of five wiped out. you can't sort of just ignore that and say, yes, but why? people should remember what's going on october energy. >> so why don't people put more energy towards actually forcing hamas to surrender? you see, there's all this energy against israel. are they doing this? are you saying they should start saying no? >> i'm saying though these energy, where's the energy? >> the pictures, the pictures are being broadcast. >> but hamas, the pictures are being broadcast. and you wonder, why don't they surrender ? why don't they surrender? >> these pictures are coming out. we're all watching them, but not only that, they should stop that. >> i'll answer you with that. with hamas. so you're saying about hamas surrendering just the other day , hamas did the other day, hamas did actually agree to a ceasefire, right? so in a sense, well, also the terms. but then obviously israel didn't. but then it was also to have an exchange when it comes to the hostages, i think, and also give all the hostages back. so for you to say that hamas are naive, and i think because what you said that they're winning the propaganda war, it's about propaganda.
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>> the reason why hamas have given a ridiculous offer, which obviously israel will not agree to it. so israel look bad , you to it. so israel look bad, you know, look, i think we're losing sight of what this is all about on this eurovision stuff, which is, you know, should should there be a mob of people bullying someone who's on stage should be shouting at someone outside someone's hotel room? >> absolutely not. if we're talking about those people representing something, what they're representing is a mob and they're representing a very angry mob targeting a young woman who just wants to go and sing and any other year she would have been absolutely welcomed with with open arms. and now there's a bunch of people who don't even watch eurovision protesting outside her apartment, which is making her apartment, which is making her feel unsafe. she's getting horrible questions like that. that's what this is all about. >> this topic is about who then appeared as. and she can't stop netanyahu. i know he can't. she can't stop it. >> but the protesters know that the moment that happens, it's right. >> you may as well be at the un or something. >> but they were already there before. before netanyahu made his also don't support the bombardment anyway. >> i mean, there's been lots of mass protests in israel against what's been going on, too. so
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she does she may represent that, but that's why netanyahu, when he comes on, everyone thinks he's fighting for his political life. >> everyone knows now he's an unpopular figure in israel . he unpopular figure in israel. he doesn't represent the whole future of israel forever . he future of israel forever. he doesn't. he represents israel at the precise moment with this particular coalition inside the parliament. that's it. yeah, but no, but no wonder people then outside in malmo are thinking, hold on a moment. we really should talk politics. >> but again, this has got nothing to do with a good song. that's my point. >> no, no, i think i think that's what i'm saying here. you know greta thunberg i mean she everywhere she goes, she's either arrested or causing trouble for somebody somewhere and for her to be smug sitting outside if this was outside her house, if this was outside every day and her family's home, how would she feel? i can guarantee if there was a mob of angry people shouting at her, saying, down with sweden, down with greta, she'd be mortified and the left would come out and say, i would come out and say, the left would come out and say, leave her alone. she's a young girl. >> can i just say one thing? can i just ask your panel?
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>> i'm looking forward to the rest of this fun tonight. well, listen. still to come, a trans dart player is picking up titles in the women's game, but one person isn't having any of it. now, don't miss my exclusive interview with the defender of women's rights and three time world championship finalist deta hedman. but up next, sir keir starmer finally announces his plan to stop the small boats tackle this problem at source, and replace the rwanda policy permanently . well, so should we permanently. well, so should we trust labour to stop the small boats more than rishi sunak do you think labour could end the migrant crisis? tory mp paul scully goes head to head with the former editor of the labour list, peter edwards. this is patrick christys tonight with me. nana akua only on gb news
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good evening. this is patrick christys. tonight with me. nana akua only on gb news. coming up. ispeak akua only on gb news. coming up. i speak to dance legend deta hedman, who is standing up to women's sport and refusing to face a trans opponent. but first, can sir keir starmer or sunak be trusted to stop the small boats? it's time now for our head to head . yes, sir keir our head to head. yes, sir keir starmer today confirmed that he would scrap the rwanda scheme, pledging that his labour government will offer graft, not gimmicks, in a speech off the coast of kent, starmer accused the tories of talk tough, do
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nothing culture when it comes to securing our borders. >> £600 million for a few hundred removed, that is gesture politics and britain can do better . labour will do better. better. labour will do better. we will end this farce . we will we will end this farce. we will restore serious government to our borders, tackle this problem at source and replace the rwanda policy permanently rather than deport illegal migrants to the east african countries. >> sir keir starmer is intent on smashing the people smuggling gangs at source with a new elite border security command, which will supposedly include m15 agents. it comes after gb news revealed almost 200 small boats migrant crossings across the engush migrant crossings across the english channel today, taking the total number of arrivals this year to more than 9200. but who do you trust more to deal with the migrant crisis? rishi sunak or sir keir starmer, or neither of them? let me know your thoughts by heading to
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gbnews.com/yoursay or tweet me @gbnews. and whilst you're there, why not vote on our poll? i'll bring you those results in a few minutes time right? so going head to head on this show is conservative mp paul scully, and former editor of the label is peter edwards . all right, is peter edwards. all right, paul scully, you heard sir keir starmers speech. he said that, well, he's going to scrap rwanda even though it does appear to be working. what's your thoughts on it ? it? >> well, you're right, you've already seen evidence of, of, rwanda actually acting as a deterrent . deterrent. >> there's a long way to go yet. >> there's a long way to go yet. >> we've got to get them, you know, more people, sent to rwanda. but it's clear signal as we're seeing in ireland, we're seeing elsewhere that people are starting to circumvent the that crossing, that dangerous crossing, that dangerous crossing . crossing. >> but all we heard today was effectively a rehash of what we've already got, the small boats operational command that we've had in place now for a good few months, and, you know, with him saying he's a keir starmer, saying he's going to
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set something new up and in ending that deterrent and just basically repeating what we're already doing, where is the where is the where's something new in that? not only that, but he's effectively going to start having an amnesty by allowing people to claim amnesty. asylum in this country, having come across on the boats, which has been made illegal under the illegal migration act. >> yeah. well, see, listen, i listened to the speech, peter, i thought it was an interesting speech, but he did go on and on about this emotional language that he talked about. i mean, it's very sad. he talked about the tragic loss of a the seven year old girl and so on and so forth. very, very sad. of course, but there was no mention of what he would do with people who failed asylum. if he's going to get rid of rwanda, who can't be sent back to their original country, there was no mention of what he was going to do with those people. >> yeah. so i think we can all agree that it is incredibly sad. >> and wherever our differing perspectives, people are losing their lives every month. >> and it's horrific. >> and it's horrific. >> but but clearly there is an increasing divergence between labour and the tories.
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increasing divergence between labour and the tories . and we labour and the tories. and we talked a lot about rwanda. keir starmer's language has been quite moderate. >> i just think the rwanda policy is wicked as well as being totally impractical . being totally impractical. >> i just think it's wrong and that's one reason why labour will scrap it and spend the money, on the new kind of cross border unit you've been talking about. you also mentioned asylum .labour about. you also mentioned asylum . labour dug out some stats a while ago that showed the home office are actually processing claims a little bit slower than they used to be, which would also point to part of the problem, listen, i can't let you get away with calling the rwanda plan wicked. why is it wicked? what's wrong with rwanda? why is it wicked? >> well, i i've visited rwanda. i'm about 10 or 11 years ago. and i think outsourcing our obugafions and i think outsourcing our obligations to a country that's very poor and is recovering from a genocide, that is, you know, beyond horror, words can't describe it. i just think that's indefensible. >> well, so . so. well, why is >> well, so. so. well, why is that wicked, though? sending someone to rwanda , which is
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someone to rwanda, which is actually it's got lower knife crime, lower murder rates, lower burglary rates, lower pretty much everything. if you compare it to a lot of places here in this country, where are you proposing? this is all very well. you calling it wicked? but i'm just not hearing. well. you calling it wicked? but i'm just not hearing . i mean, i'm just not hearing. i mean, did did you hear anything, paul, about where sir keir starmer said that he might send people instead of rwanda ? instead of rwanda? >> if he's not going to do that, he's talking about doing the stuff offshore. but then why not rwanda? rwanda is a very different place. to what? to what it was even 10 or 11 years ago. and if you're talking about poorer countries, i've not been to rwanda, but i've been to uganda, where they have a number of, asylum seekers that are coming over, refugees that are coming over, refugees that are coming over, refugees that are coming over from, war across the border, and they give them land . border, and they give them land. they actually teach them what crops to grow in these kind of things and those kind of situations. so they're actually used to dealing with, certain situations far better clearly, than we are when you've got people that are coming through europe, coming through safe countries, and then making that final crossing, which i think we've all agreed on, this show
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just now, is incredibly dangerous, incredibly at risk to their lives at the hands of some of the most evil people, in europe, those human traffickers that i, we should agree that that i, we should agree that thatis that i, we should agree that that is the business model that we've got to smash. but we've already got the small boats operational command that keir starmer was trying to rebrand effectively today, doing exactly that. >> i mean, what do you say to that, peter? this sounds like an exercise of marketing, really. we do all the components that he's talking about, m15 and all the bits. he said, put them all together. we already do have those things . he wanted to have those things. he wanted to have a big communication with them. well, that's easy. we can set that up, but we have those components. isn't this just a marketing ploy of rebranding something that pretty much already exists? >> no, no, i don't think so . so >> no, no, i don't think so. so first of all, we have to remember the number of people that have been sent to rwanda under the enforced scheme is zero. i think one person has been having been given a large check by the british state, but the other reason why i think
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marketing is , is very wrong is marketing is, is very wrong is that the small boats crossings have gone up steadily each summer over the last ten years. so it's not like we have a system that's working well and labour want to tweak it. labour's five point plan you can agree with that or you can. you can say it's enough all but they have set out five measures that are quite different because the numbers have gone up each summer. and, you know, that's just a fact. you can support rishi sunak or not, but current measures don't seem to be having an impact. >> well, you say they're not having an impact, but that's not quite true, is it? because there are people in the republic who are people in the republic who are suddenly seeing an influx of migrants that are coming in because they don't they're worried about being sent to rwanda . and actually, patrick rwanda. and actually, patrick christie did a little piece where he spoke to people who were hanging around nearby who were hanging around nearby who were also migrants, who said that they didn't want to go to rwanda. so they they were frightened of going to rwanda. listen, i'm going to talk to you guys for ages. paul and peter, thank you very much for your thoughts. as paul scully mp and
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also former editor of the label is peter edwards . so who do you is peter edwards. so who do you trust more with the small boats you trust rishi or keir starmer? or maybe neither of them? ian onex says let me be honest, they're both puppets. britain is lost. matthew onex says reform are the only party to stop the boats and your verdict is now in. just 6% of you trust sir keir starmer most to stop the boats. 17% of you trust rishi sunak and a whopping 77% of you trust neither coming up as harry and meghan start a second rate royal tour of nigeria are they strong global ambassadors to the royal family? meghan's biographer tom bower has the same . but next, a massive row in same. but next, a massive row in the women's starts after a trans player is allowed to compete, more opportunities for noah lynn van leuven exclusive interview three time world champion finalist deta hedman is live in the studio after she forfeited her match against that trans player. in the name of women's sports, you won't want to miss
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gp news. good evening. if you're just tuning in, this is gb news. on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . i'm in for i'm nana akua. i'm in for patrick christie tonight. now, this is an exclusive trans dart player. noah lynn van leuven hit the headlines when she won a women's tournament in march. eight days after beating male
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rivals in a mixed event. eight days after beating male rivals in a mixed event . now, rivals in a mixed event. now, van leuven began transitioning from male to female in 2022 and was the first trans woman to play was the first trans woman to play in a televised tournament in 2023. but her rival british dance legend and former world number one peter hedman, is leading the fight to protect women's sports after forfeiting her quarterfinal match because she refused to compete against a biological man. and she's maintained this position for the last two years. i'm pleased to say. joining me now is deta hedman deta. thank you so much for joining me. it's really good forjoining me. it's really good to talk to you. first of all, just briefly, why did you get into darts. what's your what's your background? well, i was born in jamaica and i came to the uk in 1973 and to be fair, i didn't know anything about darts, but my brothers were here, so they were into it and that's how i got into it. and i just love playing the sport and each level i just set myself and just progress and see where i
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could go. well, you don't really well now, of course, with this particular match. so there was speculation that you pulled out of the denmark open, which is what the tournament was over illness to protect your to protect your record or something like that. could you just set the record straight on why you pulled out of that? >> yes . the pulled out of that? >> yes. the famous mr phil barr's reported that on twitter, as you just said, that i've pulled out because of me. well, no, i didn't pull out of because of ill health after i finished my game and i weighed for my notification. and when it came and i was playing nolan because from as i said, the last few years i've struggled with the situation of playing a transgender and in more than one occasions i've been wanting to pull out and people have spoken to me not to do it. but in the end it got to me and it was beginning to affect me
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physically and mentally. and the last tournament i was at, the lady series, i said to my other half, we're sitting there because on top of me struggling with that, i'm also on the board of the wdf as the athletes commissioner and wdf is that the women's world darts federation or the world darts federation? and obviously i brought this to their attention, the transgender pdc. but all the ladies who do participate in the women's game has been complaining that they didn't enjoy the experience. they've been asking me to take it up to the board to see if they can have it changed on. we'll just look into so much. i've read so many things and in fairness , it just hurt my head. fairness, it just hurt my head. yeah, and the last lady series, i sat there and so many girls was coming to me telling me this, that and whatever, and i just sat there and just put my head back, put my headphones in,
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and i was absolutely crying my eyes out. >> see, that's the thing. people don't think of the impact that it has on the women know who then have to play a trans athlete in this particular occasion, it's a man who is now a woman, a trans woman, but he or sorry, she i have to call van leuven. and she went through this sort of strangest of tests, apparently, to play in this particular darts competition and to play against women. why is that not good enough? what are the big advantages that, biological men will have over a woman in darts ? woman in darts? >> well, everybody, a lot of people, not everybody , there's people, not everybody, there's some that says there's no advantages or there's no disadvantages, if you like. but what they've all seems to have forgotten is about the biological woman . this stuff biological woman. this stuff that we have to go through every month . okay, so not everybody month. okay, so not everybody have a period. some do. i've sat there and seen girls , women who there and seen girls, women who is doubled up in pain all the
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tournaments i go to now, a trans man won't have that . i go man won't have that. i go through the menopause and funny enough , sitting out there just enough, sitting out there just had one of them. they won't have that trans woman. yeah, but they tend to seem sort of dismiss what a natural born woman go through . and also in our through. and also in our research that i've done with my partner , i've just flipped that partner, i've just flipped that just reading so many as i said, i've read so much stuff on it . i've read so much stuff on it. is that our testosterone level ? is that our testosterone level? they're allowed to be twice the amount we are now . to me, in my amount we are now. to me, in my eyes, rightly or wrongly, i just felt okay. if you want to be a woman and there's no difference between a transgender and a natural born woman, then we should be at the same level. so if there's no difference why they're twice the size as a woman now, i need somebody to explain that to me . but as explain that to me. but as i said in denmark , it just got to said in denmark, it just got to me and i just couldn't deal with
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it because i just broke down. yeah. because you went to speak to your tour director, didn't you?i to your tour director, didn't you? i went to have a word with the tournament director and wanted to have a private conversation away from everyone was just me and the tournament director . carson and was just me and the tournament director. carson and i was just me and the tournament director . carson and i explained director. carson and i explained to him, i've had my notification, as you can see, and i just said , i can't do it, and i just said, i can't do it, i can't cope. i said, i'm just breaking right now, and i just i just dissolved into pieces and. >> and you bravely refused to play >> and you bravely refused to play . so what's the implications play. so what's the implications now then. does does does nolan then win if you don't play, of course. that's it . and what you course. that's it. and what you know because what what do you what would you like to see happen. >> well i would like to see, to be fair, i would not like to see anybody not play this sport they enjoy. but for me, i am also fighting for the girls that are
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out there , that won't have that out there, that won't have that opportunity because if we leave it and bury your head in the sand, there won't be anything for young women and young girls to aspire to . and that's one of to aspire to. and that's one of the things that i feel strongly about because i've felt for a young girl's world championship, which has been two years now . if which has been two years now. if we allow this , the transgender we allow this, the transgender thing to happen, who is saying that young boys won't decide to start playing in the young girls or okay, they have their own tournament. and i would say to me , i can see forward is me, i can see forward is probably of an open for trans, non—binary and whoever wants to play non—binary and whoever wants to play that . but why would you play that. but why would you have a ladies section all these years? and the main section , a years? and the main section, a girls section and the boys section? if there was no difference, this would just be you can have both. >> then you could have an open
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category where somebody who's trans can go and play in that. i just it doesn't seem, you know, i don't see why this person needs to play against women. but listen, peter, thank you so much for giving me your time explaining your story. and i really respect you for actually being prepared to forego your own potential of winning. well, yeah. for your principles. yeah. >> because one of the things they say inclusivity and fairness , but you can't have both. >> yeah. and yet you're the one that's been excluded. dether thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you for having me. >> it's really good to talk to you that of course is adults player deta hedman. well, nolan van leuven recently told the netherlands outlet nos . i don't netherlands outlet nos. i don't really feel the need to go further into it. this has been their choice and not mine. i think the only unfortunate thing about this issue is that a lot of people forget that i am also a human being. on the 25th of april, the world darts federation released a statement outlining their position, which read the wdf believes in equal opportunity for all people to participate in the sport of darts as athletes, coaches,
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officials, staff and other volunteers. however, in instances where a transgender individual wishes to compete, the wdf will consider eligibility guidelines to ensure a fair and level playing field for all participants. well, coming up is sir keir starmer making a massive mistake by ditching the rwanda deal our only deterrent for turning away illegal migrants? don't miss my take at ten. but next, who gave prince harry and meghan markle the right to go on a royal tour? >> it is fantastic to be here in nigeria with you all and to be here at the school for our first visit. hi i'll get the blistering reaction of royal biographer tom bower. >> you won't be pulling his punches. this is patrick tonight with me. nana akua only on
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gb news. good evening. this is patrick
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christys. tonight only on gb news with me. nana akua now after getting spectacularly snubbed by the king this week, prince harry met his wife, meghan markle at heathrow airport. as the pair flew to nigeria for 72 hour tour. now that was earlier today. they attended the inaugural mental health summit at the lightweight academy in nigeria, a school thatis academy in nigeria, a school that is a beneficiary of their archewell foundation and with mental health, highly stigmatised in the country. the couple then shared these words with the students. >> hello everybody! >> hello everybody! >> it is fantastic to be here in nigeria with you all and to be here at the school for our first visit. hey hey, look around this room. >> i see myself in all of you as well. >> so if you take anything away from today, just know that mental health affects every single person in the entire world. >> you think you think about the mental health of his, his
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parents, but his father, of course, the king and the rest of his family. but harry and meghan strong global ambassadors for the royal family. to shed light on this, i'm joined by royal biographer and journalist tom bower, tom. so they are. they didn't want to be royal, as in they are . he's royal by blood, they are. he's royal by blood, but he didn't want to do royal duties. but surely this is like a sort of mock royal tour ? a sort of mock royal tour? >> yes it is. »- >> yes it is. >> it's pretty nauseating. one too, because this is all part of promoting the brand. brand sussex. >> and of course the casualties and victims of their selfish touring is the british royal family and britain itself. >> i mean, this interferes in nigeria, a country which is a very important member of the commonwealth, by the sussexes , commonwealth, by the sussexes, who damned the commonwealth in their notorious netflix series, is really quite yet another milestone in their intention to snub and to humiliate the british royal family in britain .
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british royal family in britain. >> and it's rather sad, isn't it. well, i mean, they would argue this is part of. so they had their archewell foundation and this is one of the charities thatis and this is one of the charities that is a beneficiary for the foundation, although i didn't think that much money had sort of that the accounts on that foundation didn't appear to have very much money. so i'm just i'm cunous very much money. so i'm just i'm curious about this one. >> well, i mean, it didn't i think they gave the nigerians something like £20,000, a pittance . no, this is all about pittance. no, this is all about promoting the brand and this is all about their own selfish endeavours to actually assert themselves as terribly important people. and they've got a problem with that because they're not very important. but they're not very important. but the only thing they do have is their names and their connections to the royal family. and thankfully, the king refused to meet harry when he was in london this week because that would have only been used by harry to promote himself in nigeria. >> and of course, meghan herself , couldn't even take the courtesy , let alone dare leave
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courtesy, let alone dare leave heathrow airport. >> and here in london because she didn't want to be booed. probably >> well, of course, i mean, as you as you mentioned that that's true. they they haven't really got got anything left. i mean, well, what is left of what they can actually sell and promote themselves. meghan's got her jam themselves. meghan's got herjam which this is, this is not american riviera orchard doesn't appear to have, sort of doesn't appear to have, sort of doesn't appear to have done anything positive. i don't hear much coming out from america about it. that is good. i mean, what are people thinking there? >> well, i think for americans , >> well, i think for americans, those who take an interest in the sussexes and i think by now it's a diminishing number are bemused by it all. they can't understand. but you've got to remember another part about all this. as far as meghan is concerned, she's playing the race card. she has said that her mother's ancestors left nigeria probably as slaves. she, in her netflix series dan the british
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royal family, as racist. >> he was outrageous lie and she is using this to assert her credentials in america as some sort of ambassador or leader or influencer of the black community there. >> and it's all very , very >> and it's all very, very nasty. it's all, all self—interest . and of course, self—interest. and of course, today we read the princess anne has completed 450 engagements in britain. and there's poor kate suffered from her illnesses, and meghan is parading herself in nigeria with all the things i've now described in the most really appalling manner, exploiting her marriage and harry, having betrayed his family in the most outrageous way in his book and in the netflix series. it really is a shockingly sad moment. the british royal family and for britain itself . britain itself. >> well, well of course, well,
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of course she would argue that she's not playing the race card at all. and in fact, she, later on they said that it was unconscious bias and that nobody said the word racism at all. and then harry said that nobody in then harry said that nobody in the family was racist. this is after allowing everybody to, feel , think that there was some feel, think that there was some sort of racism going on for some two years. and the queen went to her death not knowing this, but of course, meghan is not here to defend herself. so she would probably argue those things. what is next for these two? because i know there's a polo thing coming out with harry. >> well hang on, she sent it to netflix. it's on. it's on video. she told the world that there had been a racist slur against the unborn archie. so don't let us fall into the trap of rewriting history because it now suits meghan to change history. we know exactly what she said because she said it, as did harry in that interview. i think they really are grovelling now because there's polo, there's jam, there's some netflix series about cooking. i can tell you
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that in my book about meghan , that in my book about meghan, the only thing that meghan could cook was spaghetti bolognese and a steak on a barbecue. she knows nothing about cooking and the whole thing is just contrived . whole thing is just contrived. she's struggling for an identity. >> well, listen , tom, it's been >> well, listen, tom, it's been a pleasure to talk to you. it is a pleasure to talk to you. it is a hodgepodge of things. it's lovely to talk to you. that is tom bower. next is sir keir starmer right or wrong, to scrap the rwanda plan? my panel have fired up on this one. and this is patrick christys tonight with me. nana akua only on gb news. now let's get an update with your weather with alex deakin. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. the warm weather will continue into the weekend for many another cracking day tomorrow if you like. it's sunny, but we are in for a change by sunday. in the
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west where we could well see some thunderstorms in the east it's mist and low cloud that's just dribbling back in from the nonh just dribbling back in from the north sea, turning things fairly murky for the start of the weekend across eastern england. but elsewhere, long clear spells decent night for spotting the aurora . there is a chance, aurora. there is a chance, particularly across the northern half of the uk. not too chilly ehhen half of the uk. not too chilly either, temperatures mostly holding up in double digits. certainly in towns and cities, and a fine sunny start to come on saturday. the main exception will be lincolnshire, down through to cambridgeshire . the through to cambridgeshire. the london area may well start a bit murky, but by mid to late morning that mist and low cloud will have cleared just a potential for it to affect some eastern coast of england at times , and we'll see cloud times, and we'll see cloud bubbung times, and we'll see cloud bubbling up through the day with 1 or 2 scattered, but potentially heavy showers over central and northern scotland. but most will stay dry and fine and warm with temperatures in the low to mid 20s. sunday's still pretty warm, but more of that mist and low cloud, particularly in eastern scotland. so some ha on that aberdeenshire coast, especially greater chance of seeing a few more showers breaking out across the highlands. but more
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particularly further south across the west of northern ireland, parts of wales and western england. some thunderstorms potentially on sunday afternoon. so we do have a met office yellow warnings in place for that. another warm one and where it stays fine and sunny in the east, we could get to 26 or 27. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> good evening. it's10:00. this is patrick christys. tonight with me. >> nana akua tackle this problem at source and replace the rwanda policy permanently . policy permanently. >> yes. starmer's naive plan to stop the small boats as a threat to british security . and do you to british security. and do you think this might be a bit fascist side ? that's a little fascist side? that's a little bit fascist palestine ? bit fascist palestine? >> no. okay. palestine
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>> no. okay. palestine >> do we need to send the police into universities to break up the gaza protest camps? plus, is starmer and the opportunity destroying , aspiration hating destroying, aspiration hating labour party ? boris johnson is labour party? boris johnson is taking the fight back to labour. i've got all of tomorrow's newspapers front pages for you with my panel. former bbc political correspondent john sergeant and political commentators joana jarjue and alex armstrong. oh, and what gives harry and meghan the right to go on what looks like a royal tourin to go on what looks like a royal tour in nigeria? get ready britain, here we go. a labour government will open the floodgates for illegal migrants. that's .
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migrants. that's. next. >> very good evening to you. it's just coming up to 10:02. a look at the headlines from the newsroom this hour . a man newsroom this hour. a man convicted of the murder of a police officer in bradford in 2005 will spend a minimum of 40 years behind bars. 38 year old sharon beshenivsky was killed when she interrupted a raid at a travel agent. she'd only been a police officer for nine months at the time, piran ditta khan, who's 75, masterminded that armed robbery and spent 15 years on the run. he's the last of seven men involved to be convicted, retired detective andy brennan described ditta khan as a violent man. >> the reason why he's here at 75 years of age is on the basis that he decided to flee the country in order to try and make good his escape and avoid being held responsible and accountable for his part in what had taken place. and let's be absolutely clear, he is clearly the one person that was responsible for organising and planning this and
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making sure that those that went in there had firearms and loaded firearms. in that case, we've heard today that the uk is officially out of recession after better than expected growth at the start of the year. >> the office for national statistics estimates gdp rose by 0.6% from january to march. predictions were suggesting nought point 4. rishi sunak says the figures suggest the economy has real momentum, but shadow chancellor rachel reeves accuses the conservatives of being out of touch . of touch. >> if you look at this prime minister's record since rishi sunak became prime minister, the economy is still £300 worse off per person in the country. so this these numbers today are not deserving of the victory lap that rishi sunak and jeremy hunt seem to want to go on. >> an ex—prisoner obsessed with the hunger games has been handed an indefinite hospital order for what a judge described today as the senseless and savage killing of a grandfather . thomas of a grandfather. thomas o'halloran was riding his
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mobility scooter in west london when lee bowyer stabbed him five days before the killing. beier, who had a string of convictions, was released from wormwood scrubs, having served a full 12 year sentence for robbery. police say the motiveless attack has left the 87 year old's family shocked and horrified . family shocked and horrified. scotland's new first minister, john swinney , has admitted that john swinney, has admitted that it's legally impossible, he says, to implement controversial gender recognition reforms in 2022. msps voted to pass a bill, making it simpler for people to change their gender without having to obtain a medical diagnosis. the legislation would have also reduced the minimum age at the time, and the time required for someone to live in their chosen gender. the campaigners argue the move is the wrong one, and they say it could affect protections for women and girls . two elderly women and girls. two elderly just stop oil protesters this afternoon took a hammer and chisel to the glass case that protects the magna carta at the
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british library. the vicar and the retired biology teacher, who are both in their 80s, also held up a banner claiming that the government is breaking its own climate laws before gluing themselves to the display. scotland yard says two people have been arrested on suspicion of criminal damage and as we heard from nana at the top of the show, prince harry's nigeria tour is continuing today. having spent a brief couple of days here in the uk greeted by cheers and dancing , the duke of sussex and dancing, the duke of sussex spent time with wounded soldiers, reaffirming his commitment to supporting veterans in abuja alongside his wife meghan. he also visited lightweight academy , a charity lightweight academy, a charity promoting mental health awareness. the couple are hoping their first trip to the african nafion their first trip to the african nation will help strengthen ties , after nigeria expressed interest in hosting the invictus games in 2029. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts. you can scan the qr code on your screen or go to our
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website gbnews.com/alerts . website gbnews.com/alerts. >> sir keir starmer set his stall out today. the labour leader is hell bent on scrapping the only deterrent stopping illegal migrants from pouring in over our southern border. yes, he wants to do away with the tories rwanda plan, calling it a gimmick and a waste of money. >> £600 million for a few hundred removed , that is gesture hundred removed, that is gesture politics and britain can do better. labour will do better . better. labour will do better. we will end this farce. we will restore serious government to our borders and tackle this problem at source , and replace problem at source, and replace the rwanda policy permanently . the rwanda policy permanently. >> so what is sir keir starmer's great masterplan, i hear you ask? smash the gangs, of course we know he wants to label the people smugglers as terrorists and in a rare policy announcement, he spelled out plans for a new border security
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command made up of m15 agents , command made up of m15 agents, border force officers, police specialist investigators and prosecutors. >> good ambition is never enough on its own, but i've seen how with determination, with leadership, with single minded focus, agencies can work together and deliver results and not just within one country ehhen not just within one country either. we can cooperate across borders, and that's not some kind of weakness. it's absolutely essential. >> but could he be any more naive? we've already. we're already paying france almost £500 million. and for what? and if migrants in italy decide to make the journey to northern europe is giorgia meloni going to stop them on this very show ? to stop them on this very show? earlier in the week, we spoke to two illegal migrants camping in tents in west london. listen to what they had to say about the threat of being deported to rwanda . rwanda. >> rather, you would rather go
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to sudan than rwanda, rwanda, sudan, mish sudanese go to sudan. >> no. go rwanda. why you go rwanda? rwanda. one country. why do you go rwanda? yeah. yes. everybody is scared about rwanda. everybody is not right about this. everybody say that it's not right. if i come from my country to your country, why you send me another country , you send me another country, another country. different language, different legend , language, different legend, different everything. why >> so it was revealed today that deportation flights could be set to take off in just six weeks. but from day one of a labour government, the deterrent would government, the deterrent would 9° up government, the deterrent would go up in smoke. government, the deterrent would go up in smoke . starmer says go up in smoke. starmer says that the tories are currently offering a cinderella service at our borders, but labour are at it as well. and this plan to stop the boats is the stuff of fairy tales. well, let's get the thoughts of my panel . joining thoughts of my panel. joining me, former bbc chief political correspondent john sergeant, political commentators joana jaflue political commentators joana jarjue and alex armstrong. i was
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a little bit quicker this time. i got the walk faster. alex armstrong, sir keir starmer , his armstrong, sir keir starmer, his plan. he's going to scrap rwanda even if it is working. that's what he says. >> well, there will be no deterrent. will there. i mean we just saw it on the rt there. there's two guys saying i would rather go back to my home country than go to rwanda. what does that tell you? if that message is broadcast to people coming over the channel, then they won't make that trip in the first place and put their lives in danger. so this, this rwanda plan could end up saving lives, which keir starmer obviously isn't mentioning. funnily enough as well, there will be no deportations under keir starmer's new plan, and it sounds like this new command unit is very similar to the one that oxford university also highlighted , which is the highlighted, which is the current small boats operational command that exists today. well, this already works. this is already in place. so what is new here is that he's saying m15 are going to get involved. what are they going to do, go into a foreign country and start an illegal war and start going after these gangs undercover? i mean, come on, this this whole
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plan that keir starmer's got sounds strong and it sounds tough because he's using words like m15, james bond. it sounds very sexy , but it's not going to very sexy, but it's not going to deliver. even oxford university saying it's unlikely to be a game changer. and on top of that, we've lost our deterrent. joana jarjue at the end of the day, does up the ante a bit. >> if you do get m15 involved. i'm not saying that there aren't already things in place, but obviously if you're a sitting government and you can call upon different forces within the country and also have that autonomy and influence, potentially to sit around the table with other partners across europe, for example, then it could potentially work. and i just think that, you know, you've got to start by actually tackling this at the root rather than for me, i feel like rwanda is might work for a little bit. you know, i'm not kind of scared to admit that. but there's only a certain number of people that you can send to rwanda. and when you've got over 30, 370 million, should he get rid of it, though , should he get rid of it, though, if, as you said, it might work for a bit, should he be saying that he's going to get rid of it? >> after all, if somebody fails asylum, there is no other country to send them to so they
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fail. asylum they can't be sent back to their home country. a third country will have to be part of the mix. where is he planning to send people? >> well, i think that if he's a strategic leader and he actually tackles this the right way, then he will look at cost benefit analysis. you know, he'll sit and think, okay, so it might work for a bit and it might work as a deterrent, but is it actually worth spending £370 million on the same a small number of the same labour party? >> you go, oh, britain, the tiny little nation. that doesn't mean anything anymore. we're such a small airline and we need the international community. this is the same labour party saying that that now we're going to be the ones to stop the small boats. are we? hell, we are not. we are having got the oomph, according to labour activists, to go into these these countries in africa. and do you think these migration is he making a valid point though he's talking about. >> no, i think what he's doing, it's called politics, really. he's planning what's going to happenin he's planning what's going to happen in six weeks time when the first flights, we're told are going to take place to rwanda. now he's guessing, i think probably correctly, that it's going to be a messy business. there's going to be tremendous amount of legal activity, a lot of
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demonstrations and so on. so instead of finding himself in that position where suddenly people would turn to him, what about you? what are you going to do? he already prepared the ground. we also regard illegal immigration as extremely important issue. we've been talking about it for six weeks. so i mean, he's preparing that particular argument and what the mistake is often to imagine that people are sort of taking all these things down. then they're saying, yes, but if he was in power, it's not to do with power. we're in the middle of an election campaign. it's in slow motion. but what you're seeing is a very careful, coordinated plan by labour. you may think it's not coordinated and you may think it's not careful, but they're trying to lay down their position on the assumption that it's going to be a messy business. now, i think that's pretty shrewd . pretty shrewd. >> he is shrewd. he is very shrewd. but the point is that he where is he going to send people who fail asylum ? it's all very who fail asylum? it's all very well in being shrewd and knowing that it's an election. so his campaigning, that's quite important. where is he going to ?
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important. where is he going to? >> no no no no no, he's not prime minister. back to their country like he's not. >> but not everybody can go back to their country. so if somebody fails asylum. so for example, somebody from afghanistan, you can't send them back to afghanistan. where will you send them if you're going to get rid of rwanda and a third country, where are they going to go? >> but assuming that's humans are asking johanna, johanna, answer that. >> hold on. i'll come back to you. >> but it's going to work, though you're assuming it's going to work, but you need a third country. >> so where will they go? well i think that that will be in very, very small cases. >> i think it's completely different i think will they go the but there'll be other opportunities for him to send people to other countries. but i think that that argument specifically talking about rwanda, about people who haven't even been processed yet, that is different when you're making a legal case for where you're going to send people. and the third country, i think he'll be able to get that over the line without half the country even being able to notice where people are going. >> what's he going to do with the people he's currently got here as well? i mean, what's happening with them is he just going to like, is it going to be
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an amnesty where they're just going to go through? now? >> you've got to it's for the sake of argument. this is an election campaign where the leader of the opposition doesn't have to provide all the answers. he's not in charge. so there is a difference between what you're expecting of him and then saying, but what's he going to do in power then? what he's doing at the moment, he's in the middle, i think, of an election campaign. now, there are different rules that apply to that, meaning he can't in fact pull levers of power. he's not in power. right? what he's got to do is to make sure that when the government stumbles, he pushes them further into the mud. that's what they that's what people want to do. >> alex, don't we want to know? >> alex, don't we want to know? >> well, we'll hopefully learn more with the with the manifesto. you know, that's his chance.i manifesto. you know, that's his chance. i mean, we're still waiting for it, but, you know, i hopeit waiting for it, but, you know, i hope it comes. and i hope it does give detail because there's a lot of detail missing here. frankly, there's not a lot of explaining. you're right. it's politics. >> but the details, the details of the government aren't giving us. you see, we don't know. >> now, i absolutely agree with you on that point. we don't we know very little about what's happening in six weeks time.
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nobody can tell you where they will go though. where will they go? they'll go exactly where patrick found them. will go on to the streets. they will get these tent cities like you're seeing in paris, in los angeles and other parts of the world. and the solution for mayors like sadiq khan is to build housing specifically for them, while the rest of us in london still can't afford to buy a home. >> i actually think it's quite unfair for you to be asking specific countries of where these people are going, and i kind of echo john's point why should his strategy? because it's his job at the moment in opposition, like you said, government in waiting to set the strategy of how he actually wants to tackle the wider issue, but to kind of ask for specific countries when he's not even at the table yet to make a country. i'm just saying, well, you said, where are they going to go? >> he has been in opposition leader for quite a few years. >> the question is if it's not a specific country, where are they going to go? is it going to be in this country? is it going to be? he needs to give us a bit more information. i think the british public need it. we want to know if you're going to scrap rwanda. a lot of people are saying it's an okay scheme. if you're going to get rid of it, where are you going to? there's a little a big gap. >> you're asking two completely different questions. no, i'm asking one question. no, because i'm looking for an answer. no, because keir starmer is tackling
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the question about people's processing before people are wanting to ship them off to rwanda, before they're even processed. and you're asking the question about people who have actually failed there. and that's two completely different things. >> but it's still the same question. he needs to answer the question. he needs to answer the question whether it's one question whether it's one question or two different questions, to answer someone he was being asked . it's a genuine was being asked. it's a genuine we do need to have a plan, sergeant. last word to you, because i've got a point about it is, is that we still know. >> so little about how many people are going to be pulled in, and they are at the moment, what's going to happen to the hunger strikers who are saying we're not going to eat anything? what's what's going to happen in between now and six weeks on the first flight, going now what? you mustn't do, particularly if you want to win an election as keir starmer does, is, is throw everything in to the last question . don't do that. wait question. don't do that. wait for it to play out quite clear what you do. but it's you know, you can say, oh , it's all naive, you can say, oh, it's all naive, it's stupid, it isn't stupid. this is cleverly worked out. >> i think it's quite naive. and i and i think that when keir starmer takes over, if he takes oven starmer takes over, if he takes over, which i suspect he will, because john curtis is never wrong, that if he takes over, we
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will all be asking him where are they going to go? but coming up, i'll bring you the very first of tomorrow's front pages in the liveliest paper review that you you'll get anywhere, nowhere else than here on gb news. but next, after we've showed you how the gaza protest camps can turn ugly. >> one of the big criticisms of this camp has been that if you were visibly jewish, that you wouldn't necessarily feel that welcome. and i think it's to easy understand why they might feel a bit like that. have our student campuses really become hotbeds for anti—semitism ? hotbeds for anti—semitism? >> and should the police be brought in to disperse these camps? i'll get the lowdown from freedom fighter and associate professor of the university of cambridge , james orr. this is cambridge, james orr. this is patrick christys tonight with me, nana akua on
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gb news. this is patrick christys. tonight with me. nana. akua only on gb news. now university chancellors have told the prime minister to not make the gaza protest camps a culture war for fear of escalating tensions. and this comes after rishi sunak's meeting with the union of jewish students earlier this week, in which he called for universities to remain bastions of tolerance amid rising anti—semitism on campus. oxford and cambridge universities have been particularly vocal about their support for palestine and gb news went to oxford university yesterday to see what it was all about. >> everyone's linked arms to , to
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>> everyone's linked arms to, to try to force us. i think out as close , it's a bastion of freedom close, it's a bastion of freedom of speech at oxford university. do you think this might be a bit fascist? sign free. free it's a little bit fascist. free palestine. no okay. palestine. >> now, the government has repeatedly told university heads that they should be ready to contact their local police forces if potential criminality is detected . and over in is detected. and over in america, more than 100 pro—palestinian protesters were arrested at columbia university in new york last month as cops tried to get the situation under control . so should we be sending control. so should we be sending police in to break up the uk camps, or would this only make the martyrs of the woke oxford students? well i'm joined now by associate professor of philosophy and religion at the university of cambridge, james orr. james, thank you very much for joining me. look, i'm all forjoining me. look, i'm all forjoining me. look, i'm all for freedom of speech, but a lot of these protests appear to be
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going just that little bit too far where it becomes intimidatory. is it? do you feel that they're crossing a line here, or do you feel that these protests are perfectly acceptable in the way they're being conducted ? being conducted? >> well, good to be with you, nana. >> i think one's got to just take these protests on a kind of case by case basis . and we saw case by case basis. and we saw some footage there of what happenedin some footage there of what happened in colombia where you, the riot police really did need to be called in. they were there was clear evidence of criminal damage . hamilton hall, that damage. hamilton hall, that beautiful hall at columbia was was being effectively ransacked, the protesters were not treating the protesters were not treating the building respectfully at all. they were acting disruptively . they were harming disruptively. they were harming the ordinary processes of the university of learning of exams and so on. and so forth. my impression of the protests and the encampments in cambridge and oxford is that they've been a little bit less disruptive . and little bit less disruptive. and so, you know, i'm very committed to academic freedom and free speech, as i know, some of my colleagues are maybe not all of them. so i would on the side of
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caution . and i think i'd be caution. and i think i'd be reluctant to suggest that at least as it as the protests stand, they warrant any kind of heavy handed reaction from the police . and of course, i'm not police. and of course, i'm not even sure that the university authorities would even think of bringing in the police. i mean, we saw a couple of years ago when just stop oil, dug up the turf of trinity college. the police were simply observing them. and trinity college had said that they were absolutely happy for the for the criminal damage to proceed. and, you know , i think so it's a very difficult balance. but as things stand, though, there has been some evidence of jewish students feeling intimidated, i think probably a police reaction would probably a police reaction would probably would, would be, would be over the top. and yes, may risk, creating, martyrs where really there shouldn't be martyrs at all, i mean, i should say i was barricaded into the cambridge union, the famous debating chamber, here at the
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university of cambridge on wednesday night. we had a very, very distinguished speaker in, who was speaking very intelligent about a whole range of issues, not he'd not spoken very much on israel and palestine, but there were, i think, about 150 protesters out there, screaming so loud that it was very difficult for any kind of discussion to happen at all. so i think, you know, where where the sort of exercise of free speech becomes so disruptive that the free speech of others is undermined. then at what dance does start to, to get into difficult edges. and one wonders why institutions have not been a little bit more robust and resilient in their in their responses. but i think as things stand, that at least the protests that i've seen here in cambridge, i mean, one of the protesters are walking past the other day, offered me a cup of tea and a sandwich, which i thought was a very english way of doing a student protest. maybe it's a little bit more aggressive over in oxford, but i think the deeper concern nana
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is, is really just how uninformed a lot of the protesters are, they seem to have very little understanding of the complexities of the history of palestine to accuse israel of genocide simply to chant, chant that and without any real justification or substantiation, i think is the deeper problem. it it suggests that their intellectual formation and their understanding of the complexities of the world, is not what it ought to be. >> well, and these are supposedly the great minds who are going to be leading our country forward. but you make a very good point as well. it's when it's restricting other people's freedom. it's the impact on the other students. but also, as you very rightly said , exactly. they don't even said, exactly. they don't even know half of them what they're protesting for. thank you so much. it's really good to talk to you. associate professor of philosophy and religion at the university of cambridge. that's james orr. thank you very much for speaking to me here on gb news. coming up, boris johnson launches a surprise attack on sir keir starmer. >> yes , starmer and the >> yes, starmer and the opportunity destroying ,
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opportunity destroying, aspiration hating labour party . aspiration hating labour party. >> the eton educated former prime minister coming in to bat for private schools there. but do you agree with him? and my panel will tackle that . the next panel will tackle that. the next will go through tomorrow's front pagesin will go through tomorrow's front pages in the hot press review. this is patrick christys tonight with me nana akua only
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gb news. good evening. this is patrick christys tonight. only on gb news with me. nana akua . and news with me. nana akua. and it's news with me. nana akua. and wsfime news with me. nana akua. and it's time now to bring you tomorrow's news. tonight in the most entertaining paper review on telly. the very first front pages have just been delivered for my press pack . right. so for my press pack. right. so we've got the front cover of the italks we've got the front cover of the i talks about the treasury's working on a2p tory tax giveaway in september, so it doesn't sound like they're going to have the election by then . and also the election by then. and also you've got the express that's positive. the uk will soon be back to full strength. a lot of
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people talking about how the economy is going, jeremy hunt saying how upbeat it things are. then we've got the daily, the times , as the times is talking times, as the times is talking about the private schools. of course, we had a little clip of bofis course, we had a little clip of boris johnson. this is sir keir starmer's robbing peter to pay paul policy and then the daily mail. there's that lovely andrew pierce on the top on the front cover there. but the economy is going gangbusters. so good news again for the economy. the uk economy is going gangbusters after growing at the fastest rate in two years, i think it was 0.6. so that sounds all very good. so joining me my brilliant panel john sergeant joana jarjue and also alex armstrong joana jaflue and also alex armstrong joana jarjue the economy is going gangbusters. >> i just think what a load of rubbish honestly is it. yeah i just think , you know, it might just think, you know, it might be factually true. you know, we might have turned a corner like what jeremy jeremy hunt was saying. but i think to the average person , it's like when average person, it's like when they say, oh, inflation is going down and they want to take, you know, all the credit for it, but then you go shopping and you go into your local supermarket and pnces into your local supermarket and
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prices are still high food pnces prices are still high food prices especially. so i just don't think that, it kind of paints the picture that they want to paint. it's almost as if they're scrambling now, clutching at straws, trying to find some sort of good news story. but i think the public only care if the good news story actually translates into their shopping baskets and their wallets. >> well, in a way it would do, surely, john, the fact that if inflation is coming down, obviously not rising as fast as it was , although it's still it was, although it's still rising, but it's not as fast. that means more money in our pockets. that's got to be a good thing, surely. and one of richie's pledges, except, unfortunately, taxes going up over the next two years. >> that's all agreed , so >> that's all agreed, so whatever happens, we're all going to be paying more in tax . going to be paying more in tax. now, the question of is the growth in the economy? of course it's good news, you know, of course it's something that everyone should be hoping for more, if it was coupled with a sense of can we improve productivity? i mean, that and what about the sort of per head figure rather than the overall figure rather than the overall figure ? so yeah, it's okay. good figure? so yeah, it's okay. good news. but frankly, we're still bumbling along, alex, you news. but frankly, we're still bumbling along , alex, you know, bumbling along, alex, you know, i just i bumbling along, alex, you know, ijust i can't bumbling along, alex, you know, i just i can't get excited about
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0.6% nana. i mean, i always welcome good news about britain. it's nice to see we're coming out of recession. i welcome all of those things. and i do think there's a more positive feeling about the economy in the country. you've seen recruiting going on again. business is picking up. but 0.6. but there's other best we can do now. now come on. we've got to get some growth in this country. and i would love to see the tories go back to their roots, cut taxes, be conservative, genuinely cut tax, but cut it where it m atters. matters. >> but the ais reporting the treasury is working on a 2 pm. tax cut giveaway in september . tax cut giveaway in september. >> yeah that's good right. they should do is change the banding of taxes. i think that that would be a lot more actually productive in terms of changing people's lives. but i think just going on this massive tour of saying we've turned a corner , saying we've turned a corner, look, it's just disingenuous and it's gaslighting. joanna wants liz truss level tax cuts. >> that's what i'm here for. >> that's what i'm here for. >> no, i think you do. you just changed. the band's not not do this trickle down that clearly does not work. and made most people worse off. >> i like it when rishi sunak says we've turned a corner and
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you say, yeah, you turn a corner, turn a corner, turn a corner, turn a corner, turn a corner and we're back where we started. >> yeah, true. but i think good news is good news. >> i mean, look, come on, let's not knock him. he's got one of his pledges has come to light. but let's be honest, the tory party have behaved in a disastrous manner, it's almost indefensible. i can't say anything. i mean, it's not. i don't want to be party political here. i just looking at all the evidence, and they're like rats leaving a sinking ship right now. former prime minister boris johnson has attacked sir keir starmer's private school tax pledge. the labour leader wants to increase vat at independent schools by 20, in a bid to raise £1.7 billion and spend it on improving standards in state schools. now here's what boris johnson thinks about this plan. >> i was a scholarship boy at my school and very proud of it. and ihave school and very proud of it. and i have to ask what kind of a politician is it that sets out to make it more difficult for schools to offer exactly the kind of scholarships and bursaries that gave him such a crucial leg up in life . and the
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crucial leg up in life. and the answer, of course, is keir starmer. and the opportunity destroying aspiration hating, labour party aspirating , hating labour party aspirating, hating labour party aspirating, hating labour party. >> is that fair, john? >> is that fair, john? >> well, there's certainly something in the sense of if you think it's a great idea to wreck good schools, then it's a great idea to put vat on. i mean, there is a problem here and it's, it's a bit depressing, isn't it? the idea that, you know, if you say, look , we've know, if you say, look, we've got some of the best universities in the world, they're being fed by some brilliant schools. just forget for a moment who goes to them and why. for people like me who was on a scholarship like boris was, i went to a private school. my was, i went to a private school. my father was a teacher there, so i was there for £100 a year, but the point about it was, is that we were very keen on learning , and we weren't learning, and we weren't particularly keen when we left about making money. i mean, it was, it was that class of people who were just in fact, rather academic , and i was rather academic, and i was rather academic, and i was rather academic, almost monkish. we were, you know, as a class , but
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were, you know, as a class, but that's then transferred into, you're going to earn lots of money. i never earned lots of money. >> but so, i mean, the bottom line is, though, what he's talking about is making people at public schools or private schools even pay vat, which and i think in his assumption , he's i think in his assumption, he's presuming that the same number of people will carry on being in these schools, that he's worked out how much money is going to make from these same people being in these schools, half of these people, if his calculations are wrong, a lot of these people are going to flee because they can't afford it. >> alex, you're absolutely spot on that it's the same. it's the same economic principle you apply to taxing the rich . they apply to taxing the rich. they all evacuate the country and then they take their money with them . so you put extra tax on them. so you put extra tax on things and people then. well, what do we do. because that money is certainly not going to be going to public schools. that that which if he would focus his policy on saying we need to level up, we need to build more schools, we need to build better schools. that's really the argument i want to be hearing. not going to just tax education. it's ridiculous. >> well, the other assumption is that a lot of the people that go to these schools are actually
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quite wealthy, which isn't the case, actually. i mean, i went to one of these schools, but that's because my parents company did that. my dad's company did that. my dad's company did that. my dad's company did this, and then i was able to go. then they paid for me. i mean, a lot of people, these schools also are special needs schools as well. >> yeah. i mean, then some of them might not be wealthy, but, you know, they can afford it just about and i think that 20. no, but i think that especially when it comes to inflation remember. no. but i think i think that when it comes to something like children's education and parents will find a way to get themselves in, they will, they will, they will, they will, they will, they will, they will find the to money do it, and i don't. my problem with this is that i don't think that , this is that i don't think that, when it comes to education, they should be given any type of special treatment. at the end of the day, it is a private school. it is something that you pay for. so if you're paying for it, i don't think that there's anything particularly wrong with having a tax on that like on other schools. >> okay. so my, my, my old school , newhall jacket, they school, newhall jacket, they actually send a minibus out to get all the older people. so my mum gets on this minibus along
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with lots of other people, and they take them to have lunch at they take them to have lunch at the school, and the students all help out . they give them a free help out. they give them a free meal for the afternoon. it's a wonderful afternoon out for my mum and her friend. and she goes, oh, i'm at newhall now. she's telling me what she's doing. and i met so and so and i've made them all watch your programme. so what i mean, and these schools do a lot. they took on a lot of scholarship students as well. so i think it's the people who will suffer. it's going to make a bigger divide over the rich and the poon >> but has he also categorically said that some of this money isn't going to go back into state schools, as he categorically kind of ruled that out, because i think that that's also important. >> like we were saying before about them being a government in waiting, they haven't necessarily earmarked every single bit of funding, extra funding and extra taxes, whether it's from non—dom, whether it's from vat with private schools. and i think that that's also important because we have to have a wider conversation about the education system in this country. i'm a trustee of a multi—academy trust, and i see how state schools struggle, especially when we were going through the energy prices. what are they trying to fix? >> the actual state schools
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rather than destroying the ones we want to do that for free school is fantastic, and if we were actually given devolved some powers to schools to run the schools properly, not be having this instituted way of running things, this broad sort of labour policy applied to all schools. >> they do a lot better as katharine birbalsingh, school has been. but, you know, i'm also thinking here about the teachers that go to these private schools as well. they're fantastic teachers. they are experts . so what are we going to experts. so what are we going to do? disencourage a whole generation of teachers who can go actually, here is the cap of what i can do. i can't go further than that. i'll have to go to australia and i guarantee you australia will be going, come here, come to our country, to our doctors. >> yeah. the advantages that private schools have is they can just sack the teachers. they can just sack the teachers. they can just say, i'm sorry and kids who, if you're not behaving properly , that's it. goodbye. properly, that's it. goodbye. yeah. well, now this is all unfair . yeah. well, now this is all unfair. unfair yeah. well, now this is all unfair . unfair privilege yeah. well, now this is all unfair. unfair privilege and so on. but it does mean an awful lot of good schooling is taking place that, you know, this is and i think of some of the people that i knew and some of the people my kids were in
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private schools and they were amazing people. absolutely. but isn't he going to the amazing teachers, amazing people? but isn't he? mainly they were just being quiet . being quiet. >> it's going to make a bigger divide over the rich who can afford these schools and the poor who can't. that's all that's going to happen. i suspect people like me will go on saving and i can't see. >> i think that there's going to be a wider sandwiches. >> i think there's going to be a wider strategy when it comes to education. i think that obviously keir starmer has identified certain things, even when it comes to oracy skills and just creating task forces, around education. so i think that it doesn't stop here. obviously, this is the headline. this is the thing that people are annoyed about this week, i think perhaps, but i think the state sector first, before he starts taking. >> but you know what really makes me angry about this . makes me angry about this. >> and it's and it's always labour politicians is that you get people like diane abbott and other emily thornberry i think as well, who send their kids to private schools and then say, no, you can't have it. you can't have that same access that i had that really. i really dislike that. and the british public dislike that too. >> well, listen, joana jarjue john sergeant and also alex armstrong, thank you. that's my
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amazing panel coming up. greta thunberg joins the mass protests against israel's eurovision singer. but after claims that she was once bullied by the public, has she herself turned into the bully? we thrashed that out with tonight's great and greatest britain and unit jackass. but plus , i've got more jackass. but plus, i've got more of tomorrow's newspaper front pages to show you and my panel debate if harry and meghan should be in nigeria acting like working royals. this is patrick christys tonight with me. nana akua only on
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gb news. good evening. this is patrick christys . tonight with me. nana christys. tonight with me. nana akua only on gb news. it's time to return to the liveliest papen to return to the liveliest paper. review on the telly. and more front pages have been delivered hot off the press. right now. this one is on the daily telegraph. kinnock voters not in love with sir keir starmer. now voters are worried that actually this could end up as a 1992 moment when, of
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course, the labour party were leading and then suddenly they lost to john major. now, john, you know, all of that. >> they are now that's the point to bear in mind. so although it was a surprise and john major did very well against, you know, everyone assuming he was going to lose . and of course, what to lose. and of course, what people forget about the whole saga is that labour had promised to put up taxes and that even issued with the shadow budget, everyone's salary and how much extra they would pay or what they would gain. so it was all everyone we were all following them around. we all knew in the political correspondence we knew we were all going to lose, so, i mean, it was so it was that that was the tax bombshell. so although people look back on it and say, oh, there was a soap box and good old john major, it was the old thing. absolutely be careful about be careful about promising to put up taxes.
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>> it doesn't go down well now, kinnock made that famous speech as well, which went down really badly, where he was shaking his fist in the air and he looked like a real socialist and all right. and it went down terribly with the british public. >> and he didn't, but they were looking for an excuse. >> well, of the beach or something like that. >> that was, that was, that was before what i'm what i'm hearing from this and the differences is that there were gaffes, there were things that were said in speeches. >> whereas keir starmer, you know, apart from the israel thing at the beginning, after the october 7th attack and the thing that's that's the only to say, but i don't think people care about that as much. i think the palestine movement, no, no, no is i think no, but i think the palestine that you do point 9% of the public dislike that 99.9% of women. >> no, but doesn't have a is it a but is it a reason but is it a reason for them to actually vote against? >> i don't think that it's enough. i think the economy, what we underestimate is the british people. >> we love common sense. we, we we're infatuated with common sense, aren't we? we hate hypocritical politicians. >> no, but i think that even with this story, with, you know,
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saying voters not in love with starmer , i don't know whether starmer, i don't know whether sometimes it's a bit of delusion or a bit of, i don't know, it reminded me, actually, of last week being on the panel with andrew rosindell, and he was convinced that susan hall was going to win . going to win. >> and keir starmer, oh, it's going to be this big kind of gotcha moment. and i kind of feel like this is just similar to that. >> i, i don't know, i think, you know, listen, there's still time. that's why the tory party are hanging on literally be like, they're going to drag this to the wire. now on the front cover of the mirror, we've got real martha's victim. i fear what she might do next. this is this baby reindeer thing. do you remember piers morgan did an interview with this person who denied everything? i mean, what's your take on this? baby reindeer? >> i mean, i watched the interview . he's really bonkers, interview. he's really bonkers, isn't it, to see? i mean, it felt like we were being gaslit the entire time. she's like, i didn't know him. i knew him for a few weeks and then the story would change. she's the stalker , would change. she's the stalker, isn't she? >> she's supposedly the stalker. she's denied it all, though. she's denied it all, though. she's denying it. >> she's saying that that she's not denying that it's her being played as a character. she's
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denying that the things that richard gadd has alleged in the story that are her clearly aren't true. and she's trying to defend it and it i don't think it comes off well, but how do we know it's definitely her, though? >> i mean, she's the actual evidence that says we don't and she's saying she's going to take him to court, which will be a new rematch . new rematch. >> they'll have to make a new series. it'll be great. >> but then the interesting thing is that before this even hit netflix, she was saying, i knew it was about me straight away. so i'm kind of like thinking there were so many gotcha moments, actually , in gotcha moments, actually, in that interview that i thought that interview that i thought that maybe she could have been pressed a bit more, on that, do you think piers morgan was a bit irresponsible interviewing people like this? >> just clearly, in my view, suffering with some sort of perhaps mental illness, if, you know, do you think it's a bit out of order singers? although remember what happened to him when he walked off stage with the whole mental illness thing? but do you think, do you think that he should have perhaps just wasn't a wise person to be? >> i don't know, i didn't watch the programme, so i feel it's on youtube. my old prejudice is about him. >> may come out on youtube and what are you going to say?
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>> obviously he's got a focus on trending content now with his platform being solely digital. so but i think that one of the reasons why maybe he didn't press her as much, you know , he press her as much, you know, he seemed quite tame compared to other interviews that he's done, is probably because he was aware of that fact. and it's obviously not a good look to have her on the platform to begin with, but then also to be seen as if he's really pressing and kind of, you know, being a bit too harsh on a woman that could potentially be vulnerable, that that could just make it worse . right. make it worse. right. >> well, right now, well, thank you for that. and now after getting snubbed by the king this week. oh my favourite subject, prince harry met his wife meghan at heathrow airport as the pair flew to nigeria for 72 hour toun flew to nigeria for 72 hour tour. now earlier today, they attended the inaugural mental health summit at the lightway academy in nigeria , a school academy in nigeria, a school thatis academy in nigeria, a school that is a beneficiary of their archewell foundation supports king charles right not to give harry's pr campaign oxygen this week. joana jarjue was he right? >> i think if that is true, i think it was disappointing to be honest. you know, to hear that he didn't have any room within
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his schedule . and i actually his schedule. and i actually really respect the spencer family for showing up for him . i family for showing up for him. i think that he could have at least sent one member of the family . you know, sometimes family. you know, sometimes you've got to be the bigger person. >> i mean, he's fine. >> i'm not saying that he had to necessarily turn up, but i think that he's obviously sending a very kind of clear message. and i think that is the king. whether you agree with him or not. and if you're on harry's side or his side, it would have just been nice for him to show that as the parent. >> would you be worried, though? can you? >> john, i think the thing is that the king would have known that the king would have known that we were going to have this whole nigeria experience and just thought, oh no, he's not the idea. he comes to me in buckingham palace next moment, he's pretending he's a working royal again with her messing around in nigeria, taking the salute, doing all this stuff, not pretending he's a working royal. >> he's a working royal. >> he's a working royal. >> alex. >> alex. >> well, no, he's not a working royal. >> he's not a working, but he's not pretending. he's not. >> do you know what i would be concerned about if i was the king, though? i mean, we've got to be honest about this. every
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time something has been leaked about the king's health or other things in the past, when the queen was obviously dying and the harry doing interviews and things like that terrible . can things like that terrible. can you trust that he. what you tell him isn't then going to go back to his new netflix documentaries and tv shows ? i would be very and tv shows? i would be very concerned about that if i was the king of , concerned about that if i was the king of, you concerned about that if i was the king of , you know, the the king of, you know, the united kingdom and the commonwealth. and frankly , i do commonwealth. and frankly, i do understand why they've got distance from them. if harry wants harry and meghan wants to come back as working royals and repair the relationship, i would welcome that. >> i'd like to know why . so >> i'd like to know why. so i find it so hypocritical because the king himself has written a book and he's slated the queen talking about how she wasn't very affectionate. >> his childhood was like this. his childhood was like that. you've had sarah ferguson write a book. she's done an oprah interview . so many of them have interview. so many of them have done exactly the same thing. and so many of them have capitalised off being associated with the royal family . royal family. >> can i just make one point? do you know? >> but then also, there's the queen's son. i can't remember his name , sir andrew parker his name, sir andrew parker bowles or something like that.
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he's, released a book, something the monarchy of something . the monarchy of something. >> recipes. >> recipes. >> can i just say joana jarjue. none of them did it while somebody was dying and doing these interviews whilst prince philip would lay dying because they would have known that he was very, very ill. it's not so much that they're doing it. and, you know, they wanted to go and do their own thing. it's the timing and it's the accusation of racism, which harry later in a tom bradbury interview went racism. nobody, no racism in our family . and then they called it family. and then they called it unconscious bias. joanne. they cannot escape that. but it is time to reveal today's greatest britain and union jack ass . britain and union jack ass. right. so, john, your greatest britain, please. >> well you won't. we may not know the name henri de los rios polonia, but actually he is a very brave guy who shielded his child , child and his wife from child, child and his wife from that hainaut attacker. and it was the way i think anything. what got me was the interview that he gave and how sort of calm and reasonable he was. and of course his neighbour was the
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little boy that had been killed, you know, and he was sort of asked what he thought about it, and he was just saying how awful it was. and it just he just came across as being extremely decent guy there in his bedroom with his wife and mayhem suddenly emerges and he protected and he's got this terrible sort of wound on his, on his arm. >> this is a brave man and that's it. >> and you just think, actually, great guy joana jarjue, my greatest britain is the duke and duchess of sussex for their global philanthropy . and with global philanthropy. and with their trip to nigeria, great that he's out there and creating a better connection with the continent through invictus. and also , i would like to make the also, i would like to make the point that they were actually ianed point that they were actually invited by the chief of defence staff. so they haven't set out their whole agenda. if they got a warm welcome and were treated like royals, then you're not going to win. >> yeah. yes right. >> yeah. yes right. >> my honorary, honorary greatest brit is the president
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of argentina. he's the he's one of argentina. he's the he's one of the first people that has stood up to china. he's the first person to say no, i'm not joining brics. i want to stay in touch with the west. i'm a capitalist . i don't believe in capitalist. i don't believe in this union you're building. and i think it's nice to see someone take take a stance against china. >> i've got to say that the great john sargent's got to be you. this is my winner for the great britain. >> are you sure? >> are you sure? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> brilliant. >> brilliant. >> henry de los rios. >> henry de los rios. >> polonia, a name like that, right. >> your union jack house, john. >> your union jack house, john. >> right. my union jack and natalie. elphicke. all right. everyone wants her, but yeah. what a what a shambles. i mean, to manage to mess up her own party, the conservative party, then mess up the other party. that's not bad. and at the same time be completely unprincipled. >> joana jarjue mine is an honorary one, and i'm surprised it's the first time we've given. this guy is benjamin netanyahu for pressing ahead with israel's assault into rafah , even though assault into rafah, even though he doesn't have us backing on it. he doesn't have uk backing on it. and also, he asked these people to evacuate the north, and then now he's trying to bomb them in the place that should be
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their safe haven. >> alex armstrong. >> alex armstrong. >> you can have a double loss there. unfortunately china mine is brita, brita, greta brodie thunberg, the bully who's been out protesting and screaming at a 21 year old trying to sing. >> well, i've got to say, it's got to be greta thunberg. of course . coui'se. >> course. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> honestly, she's got nothing else to do now. the climate agenda sort of slipped under the radar. >> nobody's interested . >> nobody's interested. >> nobody's interested. >> so she's coming up now where there's 160 million >> so she's coming up now where there's160 million audience or so , to listen to the eurovision. so, to listen to the eurovision. right. let's thank you so much to my brilliant panel, john, sergeant joana jarjue and also alex armstrong. thank you so much for joining alex armstrong. thank you so much forjoining me this much for joining me this evening. this was me . this is evening. this was me. this is the first time i've done patrick christys tonight. i've had fun this and join me tomorrow at 3:00 for my show. saturday and sunday i'll be bringing you all of the hot topics, big discussions, big debates, make sure you tune in with me. i'll be back again tomorrow. take care. up next is one of the greatest shows on earth. i listen to it all the time. headliners. that's after your weather. good night. god bless .
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weather. good night. god bless. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , the sponsors of weather solar, the sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. the warm weather will continue into the weekend for many. another cracking day tomorrow if you like. it's sunny, but we are in for a change by sunday. in the west where we could well see some thunderstorms in the east. it's mist and low cloud that's just dribbling back in from the nonh just dribbling back in from the north sea, turning things fairly murky for the start of the weekend across eastern england. but elsewhere, long clear spells decent night for spotting the aurora . there is a chance, aurora. there is a chance, particularly across the northern half of the uk. not too chilly ehhen half of the uk. not too chilly either, temperatures mostly holding up in double digits, certainly in towns and cities, and a fine sunny start to come on saturday. the main exception will be lincolnshire, down through to cambridgeshire. the london area may well start a bit murky, but by mid to late morning that mist and low cloud will have cleared. just a potential for it to affect some eastern coast of england at
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times and we'll see cloud bubbung times and we'll see cloud bubbling up through the day with 1 or 2 scattered, but potentially heavy showers over central and northern scotland. but most will stay dry and fine and warm with temperatures in the low to mid 20s. sunday's still pretty warm, but more of that mist and low cloud, particularly eastern scotland. so some ha on that aberdeenshire coast, especially greater chance of seeing a few more showers breaking out across the highlands, but more particularly further south across the west of northern ireland, parts of wales and western england . some and western england. some thunderstorms, potentially on thunderstorm s, potentially on sunday thunderstorms, potentially on sunday afternoon . so we do have sunday afternoon. so we do have a met office yellow warnings in place for that. another warm one and where it stays fine and sunny in the east, we could get to 26 or 27. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> very good evening. you're watching and listening to gb news. i'm sam francis, a look at the headlines at 11:00. the ringleader of an armed robbery in which a police officer was fatally shot has been jailed for life. 38 year old sharon beshenivsky was killed when she interrupted a raid in bradford nearly 20 years ago. piran ditta khan, who's 75, fled to pakistan three months after her death and then spent 15 years on the run. three other men are already in prison for beshenivsky murder. retired detective chief superintendent andy brennan has described eta khan as a violent
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man. >> the reason why he's here at 75 years of age is on the basis that he decided to flee the country in order to try and make good his escape and avoid being held responsible and accountable for his part in what had taken place . and let's be absolutely place. and let's be absolutely clear, he is clearly the one person that was responsible for organising and planning this and making sure that those that went in there had firearms and loaded firearms . firearms. >> in that case, the prime minister insists that people will soon start feeling better off after figures show the uk is officially out of recession. the office for national statistics estimates gdp rose by nought point 6% in the first three months of this year. predictions were suggesting 0.4. rishi sunak says those figures suggest the economy has real momentum . but economy has real momentum. but shadow chancellor rachel reeves accused the conservatives of being out of touch. >> if you look at this prime minister's record since rishi sunak became prime minister the economy is still £300 worse off

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